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August 31, 2006


Brian T. Murphy

Matt – you paint a glowing review of the bible. I’m glad it’s meaningful for you. I have hope it will be meaningful some day to me as well. but for now, I don’t want anything to do with it. and I’m not the first person to experience jesus outside of the bible, and that gives me a lot of hope. two important distinctions between me and the prohibitionists that you are comparing me to: 1. I would never advocate that others abandon their bible. 2. I have great hope that a day is coming when I will run to the bible, not away from it.

Matt Adair

Murph - Maybe it's just that my only hope for my pain and the pain of others is Jesus and in spite of the constant presence of people using the Bible for other reasons besides Jesus, whatever anchor I have is found in what God has said and shown about Jesus through the scriptures. And just for clarity, I think Jesus can be experienced outside of the scriptures - my concern is that we all have a tendency to create Jesus in our own image and need a corrective to our own biases and neuroses. And plus, Jesus is so much greater than anything a group of humans can construct, so I figure I'm short-changing myself if I didn't have anything to do with the Bible, which again, is about Jesus.

I hear your distinctions and completely agree with them. All analogies break down at some point, right?

And hopefully you heard this, but I'm connected with a good 8-10 people who share sentiments with you in this area. So your post was the reason I wrote, but there are others reading this who do think others should chuck the Bible and/or don't have hope that they'll ever move towards the scriptures.

aaron's funny because this sunday when we had our call to worship (which i read every week) i heard God speaking to me and really heard him speking to all of us who walk away(whatever term you want to put here). you may feel like this is me being another bible thumper, but with some stuff in my life it was good for my savior to say to me "…I will seek the lost, and I will bring back the strayed, and I will bind up the injured, and I will strengthen the weak…"(Ezekiel 34:16) your savior will stir your affections and help your unbelief(did i really just quote a song you guys did?) well that just says i listen to your record.

matt-nice post. i am proud to have a pastor you loves Jesus and his jacked up people.


that last part should have said:
matt-nice post. i am proud to have a pastor who loves Jesus and his jacked up people.

man i suck at typing/grammer

Matt Adair

Aaron - must be all the beer you drink

Frank McKinley

I can understand where Murph is coming from. When I was younger I put aside the Scriptures too. But living without them didn't provide lasting satisfaction for me. God pulled me back to my gospel roots. The Bible has been a powerful light source in my life, constantly dispelling the darkness of my heart. I praise God for its effect on my life. May it continue to shape me into the man God wants me to be.

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