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May 22, 2006



That has to be the longest sentence I've ever read!

Have you read Celebration of Discipline by Richard Foster? He offers up some nice insight of the disciplines that should be present in the life of a follower of Christ.

Matt Adair

Must have been reading too much of the Puritans. Those dudes could write 300 page books that are only one sentence's all about your punctuation!

I've read Foster, but think that Don Whitney's Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life is far better in terms of its scriptural and historical quality. In my estimation, Foster's backgroud as a Quaker, while gifting him to make good oatmeal I'm sure, leaves some holes in his spirituality such as an overemphasis on quietism that squeaks towards an Eastern mystical view of connecting with God by clearing your mind rather than by having your mind renewed(Romans 12:2).

Having said that, I have found Foster helpful in places. But Whitney is far superior, in my estimation.

Jason Gammons

That quaker oats guy is the creepiest dude ever. He has given me nightmares since I was 3 or 4. Thanks for making me relive my horrors with your quaker reference.

Matt Adair

I am always here to serve you, my friend.


Interesting comments on Foster. I just enjoyed his writing and perspective on the disciplines.

Would you consider Brennan Manning an Eastern mystic?

Matt Adair

Let me clarify and say that I didn't call Foster an Eastern mystic - I do see some similarities between the historic Quaker view of quietism and some elements of Eastern mysticism. The reference was more of a point of comparison than anything else. I'd encourage you to check out Whitney and see how they compare.

I'm not a huge fan of Brennan Manning - just never really got into his stuff. I know alot of people who do, but he doesn't really do anything for me.


I think most people rave about Brennan's work on "Ragamuffin Gospel." Personally I prefer his writings in "Signature of Jesus." Perhaps you should check it out if you are not fond of the former.

I'll give Whitney a looksie.

Matt Adair

Thanks, Matthew. I've read both - just not really my thing.

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